brom wrote:cesium wrote:By using the "make deb" (instead of "make install" or such) command, you can create a deb from the source, and that can be installed using dpkg etc. The
wiki explains how to build OSS.
yes, already did. Before I have tried ubuntu repos, there are some bugs I guess. It didn't installed properly.
Thanks to all for the help.
The problem is that it is very difficult to create a package for Ubuntu/Debian repositories. This is the difference between Arch and Ubuntu/Debian. You can easily create a deb package with "make deb", or "checkinstall", but to be able to create a package for Ubuntu/Debian repositories, you have to be a very advanced Linux user (see:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3375 ).
This causes a social problem. The Ubuntu community is actually divided into two categories: the Übermenschen (developers) and the Untermenschen (users)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cbermenschhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UntermenschIt is a kind of apartheid (in this sense)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Afri ... _apartheidThe Übermenschen create packages and the Untermenschen have to test them and report bugs. The story of PulseAudio proves this point. The developers pretend to be technocrats, and the opinion of ignorant users is of little value.
Do you have "libpulse" installed on Ubuntu?
If you have it, you may try to recompile Ubuntu packages to get rid of libpulse and PulseAudio.
You may also create your own PPA repository to gain respect and elevate your social status (see, for example:
https://launchpad.net/~dtl131/+archive/ppa ). If you have your own PPA, you can pretend to be a kind of Übermensch.
In comparison with the Ubuntu "humanistic community", the Arch community looks like a kind of Anarchist society, and this is predetermined by the Arch packaging system, in particular, and by the Arch philosophy, in general (see:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Be ... e_Arch_Way ). If you cannot imagine an Anarchist community, read Orwell's
Homage to Catalonia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage_to_Cataloniasee also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestor_MakhnoHowever, nobody is perfect. The Arch developers can also treat users as Untermenschen, call them "dumb", "stupid" or "foolish", or humiliate them in another way.
This can be safely ignored, because Arch users do not depend on Arch developers in the sense that they can always recompile Arch packages how the want. It is easy to do, and the users can share their "dissident packages" in AUR. If you do not want to be humiliated, do not ask questions on the Arch forum. Read the Arch Wiki instead.
You may try Arch to see how Anarchy works. If you feel comfortable with Arch, you may come to believe that Prince Kropotkin was probably right telling that "Anarchy is the mother of order"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Kropotkin See also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_ChomskyTaking into account the rudeness of PulseAudio enthusiasts, it is not difficult to predict a new fork of Arch Linux. To keep an Anarchist society stable, a certain level of culture is required. If it is missing, escalation of conflicts might be inevitable. The driving force behind PulseAudio revolution in Arch Linux seems to be "junior developers" from Romania and East Germany. To understand what is going on, it might be sufficient to read a few discussions:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 80#p856580http://old.nabble.com/PulseAudio-in--ex ... 14159.htmlhttp://groups.google.com/group/arch-lin ... 2a49?pli=1http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.a ... eral/32154EDIT: To make things clear, I do not believe in Anarchism and any other ideology or religion (such as Atheism, free-market fundamentalism, and the like), but there is another example of Anarchist society which deserves to be studied. It is a global Internet community.